Master Cleanse and Candida compatibility?

topic posted Wed, February 9, 2005 - 9:20 AM by  robin
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Hi there,

I about to embark on the Master Cleanse for the third time.

Lately I have also become concerned about candida and plan to do a full candida cleanse after the master cleanse.

I intend then follow this with a full regiment of parasite and candida cleansing followed by a liver flush.

My question is.. I know you are supposed to avoid sugars on the parasite and Candida cleanses.

Will the Master Cleanse then aggravate any Candida condition I may have and feed the parasites with all the sugar involved in it?

Or will it be fine as long as i just follow with the Candida and Parasite cleanses as I intend?

When I do the master cleanse usually after a few days i get a buildup of white gunk on my tongue. Is this Candida related?

If anyone can provide and reference to information on this I would be much obliged. Otherwise opinion will do just fine. :-)

thanks!

rob
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  • Re: Master Cleanse and Candida compatibility?

    Wed, February 9, 2005 - 10:50 PM
    There's not that much sugar in the master cleanse. The fructose in the lemon juice is nominal, besides being natural, and the maple syrup is really not a concern. You're good with it. I went 4 months once with no sugars of any kind, and I'll tell you, maple syrup compared to high fructose corn syrup is like a breeze to a hurricane. Don't worry about it.

    The white stuff on your tongue is just effluent from your system. Shows up when you fast or when your normal toxin intake goes negative (i.e., you ingest less than goes out). Just brush it off and be happy! (See last sentence previous paragraph.)

    Do you know you have Candida? Don't be taken in.
    • Re: Master Cleanse and Candida compatibility?

      Wed, February 9, 2005 - 11:58 PM

      why is the maple syrup not a concern? i thought it was teaming with sugar..

      actually, i was asking for a friend on the candida thing. i'm still going to do the cleanse but i don't really think candida is a big problem with me. she's concerned about it though and so thought i should ask some opinions before we embark on this cleanse..

      how does one know if they have candida anyway?
      • Re: Master Cleanse and Candida compatibility?

        Thu, February 10, 2005 - 8:09 AM
        It's not a concern in that, if it's your only source of sugar, you could do a lot worse. The Master Cleanse is a time-honored and effective cleanse, and although I can't with my layman's mouth tell you exactly why it's good - beyond re-stablizing your body's pH balance and flushing the toxins that come - I know that it was designed very specifically. And, maple syrup is about as clean a sugar as there is.

        I don't know about Candida! I just watched several years ago as folks in my community latched onto it as a sort of malady of the month. I just know our bodies, rotting and toxin-filled and probably falling down from misuse, are much more resilient than we think. They house our Spirit, after all, right? And they would even if we were forever asleep and hateful. These days I tend to prefer forgiveness and celebration - celebration of my knee hurting, for example - and my recovery rates are about the same or a little better.
        • Re: Master Cleanse and Candida compatibility?

          Sat, February 26, 2005 - 12:40 AM
          I found everything shared here very interesting! I'm with you Robin: if someone has SERIOUS candida concerns, yes, I think maple syrup(yes, Exit, you're right, it's nothing compared to industrial sweeteners but still........) could aggravate it but if you're not even sure if you have it, then it may not be an issue at all. After years of coaching people on the A&S cleanse, I'm fascinated by the idea of this "time honored" cleanse. One of the big things I learned while doing cleanse support at Arise & Shine was the huge electrolyte connection(the pH tests and need for electrolytes via juice, broth, alkalizing products before, during and after the cleanse). Most people are deficient(even vegans and raw fooders) and when we don't get enough electrolyte minerals(different than trace minerals), then the body begins to break our tissues, fluids and organs down to get them(ie. leeches calcium from bones and joints!). Ok, so back to the Master cleanse: lemon juice is acidic by nature and will immediately cause the body to pull elec's and bring them to the mouth to buffer those acids. The tricky thing about electrolyte depletion is you can feel ok/fine while it's happening so sometimes I wonder if folks could be really acidic while on the Master Cleanser and just not know it? This is one of the huge things I talk to customers about the most: don't just "alkalize" with greens and alkaline foods but introduce CONCENTRATED amounts of electrolyte minerals into the body via fresh, raw veggie juice, vegetable mineral broth and suppplements which do this. Most folks don't know this but electrolyte minerals govern brain, heart, nerve and hormone functions to name a few. They also buffer acids in the body(which is why they're so critical on a cleanse because when we cleanse, we dump even more acids into the body than on a normal daily basis). No electrolyte minerals? The body is then just forced to extract them wherever it can find them. That's why if a person doesn't pay attention to this critical aspect of daily nutritional support and cleansing, they can also end up with compromised brain, heart, nerve and hormone functions, some serious brain fog(and believe me, after years of coaching people, I saw it a lot!) or even worse, land in the hospital with electrolyte depletion(don't get scared, that's just the worst case scenario for folks who completely ignore this aspect when doing hard core cleansing). Your ideas Exit?
          • Re: Master Cleanse and Candida compatibility?

            Sun, February 27, 2005 - 10:25 PM
            Robin, Aria, I concur...sugar is sugar as far as candida is concerned. I have seen the master cleanse aggravate 3 different people with regard to candida. However, at least on of them was using way too high a ratio of maple syrup to lemon juice and water.
            I do want to add in response to Aria that most research I have seen on lemon juice suggests that it actually does alkalize the body.
            Also in response to Aria, thank you for the great info on electrolytes!
            • Re: Master Cleanse and Candida compatibility?

              Mon, February 28, 2005 - 2:44 AM
              I can't remember where I heard or read it, but I was led to believe that the acid in the Lemon Juice actually turns Alkali (<--Sp) once in the body...

              I just got offa the "Master Cleanse" (14 days strict) and I just jumped right on in it with no previous experience or knowledge of cleansing...

              I feel amazing...
              I haven' been craving any junk food.... I really don't know where to start....
              But this is just my experience that I wanted to add to this...

              I plan to do a parasite cleanse followed by a Liver flush....
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                Re: Master Cleanse and Candida compatibility?

                Mon, February 28, 2005 - 8:06 AM
                "Q. Can I use something else besides maple syrup?

                A. Other than the substitution of molasses for maple syrup for diabetics as covered by Mr. Burroughs in his book, I recommend sticking to maple syrup.

                I know of one person who was trying to maintain a 100% raw diet and used the water from soaking dates as a sweetener. It was not as effective in sweetening nor did it provide as many minerals.

                I know another person who tried honey. She reported that she actually gained weight and quit after only three or four days."

                www.therawfoodsite.com/faq.htm
                ______________________________________________________

                i am awaiting the book i ordered on this.
                i got it for 1.99 on amazon.
                i am doing this cleanse as well for a first cleanse because it is short and simple and cheap.

                i plan on doing the arise and shine later on to really get the mucoids out.
                • Re: Master Cleanse and Candida compatibility?

                  Mon, February 28, 2005 - 9:37 AM
                  YOUR BRAIN NEEDS SUGAR!!! Stick to the grade b or C Maple syrup.... Your body is going to need and utilize every spec of minerals offered that are in the maple syrup. (side note: Master Cleanse is also to give your digestive system a break to clean and heal and that's the reason not to take anything solid) Also, the Salt water flush will also aid somewhat in cleasing of some parasitc infestations But if your going to have major issues with candida... I suggest doing a parasite cleanse first, but don't stray from the original plan... it's been time tested. You need electrolytes, natural unrefined sugar, minerals, water, LOTS of water!!!! LOTS OF WATER!!! Atleast half your wieght in ounces (you weigh 180 pounds.... drink atleast 90 ounces of water per day) Oh yeah.... and sleep a nice regular sleeping pattern that is EXTREMELY necessary for healing!!! (although I have to admit that I don't practice what I preach in regards to getting enough sleep)
                  But just remember.... your brain needs that sugar for proper function... Just ask any nutrionist worth thier water.....
            • Re: Master Cleanse and Candida compatibility?

              Wed, March 9, 2005 - 10:56 PM
              Hi Robin. Thanks for sharing. I appreciate what you said about lemon and alkalizing. It truly confuses me because I know that even acidic fruits such as citrus when metabolized, leave an alkaline ash. But personally, I get really bad canker sores in my mouth if I use lemon even once a day, day after day. A raw fooding friend on the big island(Hawaii) had the same problem. After drinking his famous ginger lemonade, for long periods of time, he called with confusion about all the canker sores he had. AFter talking for some time, I suddenly thought to ask him if he was using lemon consistently! That's when he mentioned the lemonade. Well, I know it's considered alkaline ash but man, it can really do a number when it's first in the mouth(teeth, etc). That's just my experience and I know everyone is different.
              Thanks for sharing!
  • Re: Master Cleanse and Candida compatibility?

    Mon, March 26, 2007 - 2:50 PM
    I believe you can do the master cleanse and candida cleanse.. just do the master cleanse first, then the candida one.. this might even be more effective..

    For me, I got rid of candida by going through a 3-month candida cleansing regimen which included some bowel cleansing as well. I did the anti-candida diet, and took an anti-fungal - Oregano oil, which worked wonders for me. Some people have good experiences with Threelac and caprylic acid also.. but an anti-fungal is really important.

    You also gotta be aware of the die off effects.. make sure you take detox baths, colonics or do regular rebounding while cleansing.. it really helps the healing process!

    I recommend reading what this girl has to say.. she blogs about her experience with candida here: www.candidablog.com

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